A Kami Guide from the game Ryzom, in Poser 11 and tooning nicely in real-time. Also rigged and properly bone-chained, so can be posed fairly easily. No upscaling on the low-res game textures.
Category Archives: Poser
Ken Gilliland webinar
A webinar on excellence in Digital Nature with the leading maker-expert on 3D birds and other creatures, Ken Gilliland (SongBird Remix series). Booking now.
New for DAZ and Poser in June 2021
Ok, we’re nearly at the end of June, so here’s my quick pick of some of the DAZ and Poser items noticed this month. Plus a few in .OBJ or .FBX on ArtStation.
Thanks to Kevin M. I’ve solved my problem with the infinite scrolling on the DAZ Store, which after a while causes the thumbnail loading to freeze. Setting “Items Per Page” to 60 (rather than All) brings back the paginated browsing.
Science-fiction:
SC20 Botanical Garden and Material Add-on.
Volt Bot by TheAntFarm.
Dreamlight’s Cyberpunk Hall.
Vorlon from Babylon 5. Obviously fan-art, so no commercial use.
A Tomorrowland-style Window to the New World base. Currently free.
Steampunk:
Medieval Alchemy Forge, which feels more steampunk than medieval to me. The seller itemises everything except the actual file format, so I’m only guessing you could get this into .FBX.
Catnips Anonymous, a fun steampunk style cat-feeder and hypno-fan (or cat-warmer?).
Fantasy:
New from 1971s, Swamp Cottage for Poser. Also available for DAZ Studio.
Enigmatic Ancient Stones in .FBX.
Forlorn Forbidden Place, a desert pagoda.
The free Warforged from Warhammer. Obvious fan-art, so no commercial use.
Genesis 8 Female (G8F) Ring The Bell poses, for bell-ringers of the “sound the alarm” type.
Storybook:
Ingenue Dynamic For La Femme, a classic storybook type dress for the flagship female Poser figure.
A free Childhood Fantasy outfit for DAZ Studio.
A free classic candy Lolly Pop for DAZ Studio. Too much sugar from all the lolly pops? You’ll be needing the child run and jump pose set, targeted for 5-6 year old G8s.
dForce Petite Style Dolly Dress and Pufflet The Bunny.
Toon and semi-toon:
The free semi-toon Hartford Morph for Gen 8.1 Male. I assume it’s not game fan-art, but it might be Team Fortress or similar.
A free Vogon, the loathsome poetry-spouting race from The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. Obviously fan-art, so no commercial use.
A free Moustache suited to toon figures.
Free pose presets for S. Cargo by 3D Universe.
Animals:
HH Colossadon, a colossal mammoth, as a standalone.
Songbird ReMix Australia Vol 1.
Landscape:
3D Cliff Construction Set: Overgrown Walls.
Need sea-spray coming over your cliff wall? ShaaraMuse3D’s Photo Props: Water Effect Maker. Specifically splashes. And Panoramic Texture Resource: Parched Ground 2 for the sort of parched/salted ground you’d find if you hopped over a sea-wall.
Skydome - Northern Lights 5 on ArtStation. High-res 360’s.
Raffy Raffy’s new Tree-lined avenues for Blender.
Plains and Mountains for big Wild West scenes.
Historical:
23 Roman Gladiator Action Poses for G8M.
Desert Ruin. Simple, but effective and a potentially more photogenic site for gladiator battles than an arena.
Now-Crowd Billboards - Barbarian Warriors Bundle.
Free Viking Age Props for DAZ Studio. I don’t normally feel the need for yet more medieval items in my runtime, but these are very good.
Medieval Battle Generator for Photoshop. An unusual item that may interest those seeking to plan ideas for 3D scenes.
A 1930s style Show Girl Outfit for G8F.
A classic 1940s style Wood Fishing Boat.
Another fine 1950s British railway item from DryJack, the GWR Tool Van.
Quark Station Wagon, a flying station-wagon for 1950s retro sci-fi.
A 1960s Vintage Toy Car and materials.
A classic 1980s movie type Military Tunnel entrance.
Characters:
Scott For G8M, a good newsreader type, who could also be Tarzan or Clark Kent at a pinch.
Tempesta3d’s Apollo L’Homme, a soulful artist type for the flagship Poser male figure. But appears to need the L’Homme Pro - V.2 paid version, currently at $15.
Scripts:
A free DAZ script to select the root of the current figure. Save as .DSA format.
Easy Simulation Script Generator for Poser 12. Easy dynamic clothing creation in Poser.
Tutorials:
Skin Workshop, with loads of tips about how to work with skin in DAZ Studio.
Ok, that’s it for now. Don’t forget that Renderosity has a 50% store-wide sale until 1st July 2021. DAZ also have a major summer sale on now. Check your wishlists and the bottom-price end of the store for freebies!
Snarlygribbly scripts for Poser 12
Key scripts for Poser 12 by Snarlygribbly, inc. a working EZDome, and in general looking as though they’re progressing nicely.
Note the new https://poser.cobrablade.net/ location for the downloads. It seems this is where these Python scripts are officially hosted now. I’ve fixed the sidebar link at this blog and the Poser Scripts page. I’ve also plugged it into my Technical Search Engine though it seems Google Search doesn’t know about it yet (the engine runs on a Google CSE).
On the same Cobrablade page you will also find his latest Poser 11 scripts. All free.
Get Poser 12 snail-mailed to you
Do you live in the wilds of Whereizitagin, hundreds of miles from the nearest telephone pole? And is satellite Internet prohibitively expensive? Now you can have Poser 12 Early Access officially mailed to you on a USB key, along with its gigabytes of free content.
Once installed you would still have to be online to activate Poser, and of course it will also ping the registration server periodically. Thus the USB key method should not be thought to be a wholly offline solution, for someone with no regular Internet connection. Still, it could be useful for some with a slow and/or tightly-metered mobile-phone connection. Though bear in mind you may need to order another USB in the Autumn, if Poser comes out of Early Access then. I’m guessing U.S. software export restrictions may also kick in if you want it sent to dodgy nations such as Iran, Cuba, Syria etc.
The outback or mountaintop-dwelling Poser artist who prefers Poser 11.3 will instead want the $80 Poser Pro 11 serials from NeoWin (resellers for Bondware, the new top-level owners of Poser). Then you’d get someone to do the downloading of 11.3 to a USB and the snail-mailing of it to you. Again, there would be online activation needed, and it also pings home periodically.
Time for a change… to Poser 11
A new Blender video proves a pretty good advert for Poser’s real-time comic-book rendering…
Just look at those insane render-times, and this is from a guy who know what he’s doing with Blender and has a fast PC.
Poser Pro 11 for $80, real-time and easy-to-use. Also Poser’s lineart is just so much more natural-looking, or it is if you’re doing it right. There’s also Poser’s Sketch, which can even Sketch into what you see in the comic-book mode.
How to have PzDB shut down quickly
A useful tip for shutting down PzDB quickly. PzDB is the popular third-party Poser Library database-and-search software.
1. Index your small Poser 11 runtime at C:\Users\Public\Documents\Poser 11 Content\Runtime
(Assuming it is small, it is for me. You might also use your Vue library as an equally small proxy)
2. Always switch back to this one library and disable the others (main DAZ, main Poser runtime, Vue etc) before shutdown of PzDB. Do a ‘blank’ search that brings its contents to view.
3. PzDB will now shut down far more quickly than when exiting with one or more mega-runtimes loaded.
I suspect the ‘long shutdown’ problem is with the MS Access which PzDB runs on, rather than PzDB itself. Anyway, this is a workaround that works for those with 20-year runtimes.
What’s new for DAZ and Poser - May 2021
It’s the end of the month again, time for another personal survey of new DAZ and Poser goodies.
Update: Thanks to Kevin M. I’ve solved my problem with the infinite scrolling on the DAZ Store, which after a while causes the thumbnail loading to freeze. This had caused me to have to skip some DAZ Store items that were too far back in time. Setting “Items Per Page” to 60 brings back the paginated browsing.
Science fiction:
Android X02 for G8M AddOn which adds a cape and cowl to Android X02 for G8M. Also discounted at the CGbytes Store. Here we see it matte, without the shiny chrome plating.
Equally retro is Vintage SciFi Spacesuit for G8F. Nicely done, and it does look like something you might have seen on the cover of Marvel Tales in the 1930s.
Liquidator Mask for Genesis 8. I assume it’s not ‘near fan-art’, but I guess it could be similar to something in a current TV series?
Steampunk:
Very little this month, but what there is is handsome. The first Russian submarine. No format specified, but I assume .OBJ?
Fantasy:
MortemVetus brings his classic Graycrest for Michael 4 back to the market. Was at RuntimeDNA, so veteran 3D-ers may already have him in the runtime.
When Greycrest is around you’ll be needing the new Conquerors Delight - Burnt to the Ground Hovel from Cybertenko.
Greycrest may also want to stride along Sixus1’s Viking Shores Scene and Props, currently just $7.50 at DAZ.
Cybertenko’s Wolf Skin for Poser and M4. It does not appear to come with a preset for Poser dynamic hair, but someone will surely make such a furry freebie for it. See also Cybertenko’s recent Mari Lwyd head-dress.
Oculus Guard from Cybertenko. A typical D&D style gate-guard monster. Probably lives in the new Ruined Tower.
Storybook:
Free Cake for DAZ Studio. Also Donuts.
After junior has gorged on cake, he’ll be needing to burn off the sugar on the free Big Wheel for Baby Luna, a big ride-on toy bike.
Classic Fairy Poses and Expressions for La Femme, for Poser.
Toon and semi-toon:
MightyMite has a new pack of superhero/villain masks Kitbashers 087 for G3, several of which appeal. I think the second is fairly close to the karate guy in Marvel’s Inhumans, though.
A fine Retro Toon Car and Caravan (trailer-home). So far as I know it’s not fan-art. And there’s a Toon Fly for comedy interactions with the driver.
Another free Toon Car, a sort of off-road dune buggy. Also a Toon Zombie Van. Again, I assume these are not fan-art. Check before commercial use in a comic etc.
Snokulina8 for G8F, a semi-toon character.
Environments and plants:
A complete Pacific Northwest Botanica forest for DAZ Studio.
Wetlands Low-res Plants, for large ponds and lakes.
A shallow-water offshore Oil Platform for Poser.
Animals:
Little Friends Insect Bundle for DAZ Studio, including a bumble-bee.
Free, Kerya’s Lizard Poses for DAZ Studio and Kerya’s Lizard Poses for Poser. For KenG’s Lizards.
Nostrils Down For Ken’s Tortoise for Poser. Because tortoise nostrils don’t look like terrapin nostrils. It could matter, if you’re making illustrations for an encyclopedia, pet-care guidebook etc.
Yard Things including bird-boxes. Or “snack-boxes”, as cats think of them.
Animations and Still Poses for AM’s Mouse. Video demo.
NM Seashells in 3D. Vue seashore and rock-pool artists may also be interested in these.
Historical:
Faxhion - Fancy Day for DAZ. 1970s Abba-tastic pop-group textures for Fancy Day dForce outfit for G8F.
Now-Crowd Billboards - Roman Legion. Want 100 characters in the scene, and have no CERN-scale supercomputer handy? No problem, these are all 2D billboards.
Viking Spear and Spear Poses for Genesis 8. Looks like it has just about all you would need for spear hunting and warfare.
Characters and accessories:
A free Private Cinema for DAZ Studio.
RawArt’s Bernie for Genesis 8 Male. Apparently not HD, which is a big plus.
Free Old man grey skin for G8 and G3.
A free Yul Bnunner M4 ZBrush morph for Poser.
Big chunky Summer Style sunglasses for Genesis 8.
DAZ Carrara Presets for Genesis 8.1.
Can you feel ‘the goth revival’ building, among the yoof? Then you’ll be needing the DZ G8M GothZ 3 shorts and boots, and the dForce Dark Vamp Outfit.
Scripts and node maps:
SkinEdit for Poser 12. For Poser 12 only. One-click to make a Firefly character into a Superfly character.
Scripts Manager for Poser 12. For Poser 12 only.
Depth Cue for Poser 11 with Firefly, including a .MT5 material based on the work. I haven’t tried it yet, but it looks an interesting alternative to the z-buffers and is fully documented.
Tutorials:
Plugins: A Tutorial Exploring Utilities for DAZ Studio.
Community Art Workshops Using Stonemason Assets.
Reframing: Identifying and Reframing Limiting Beliefs for Artists.
Fantasy Taverns: A Workshop on Multi-Character and Atmospheric Scenes.
That’s it, more picks next month.
It’s all a blur…
Poser 12 Early Access has released another new version. The last looked at here was 12.0.484 (public on 17th April 2021). It’s now Poser 12.0.498 (dated 29th April on the download page, but new to me).
Not a great deal of change, but having motion-blur back may be cheered by some animators…
* Reimplemented Make Movie 2D Motion Blur.
Otherwise, only some foreign language fixes and Python scripting updates and upgrades…
* Added Python SaveLibraryPreview function to create thumbnails.
* Fixed crash when installing multiple Python scripts at once from the embedded store.
* Changed the time.clock() references to fix hack.py and more [move?] code from Py2.7 to Python3.7.9.
DAZ/Poser survey for April 2021
Slightly late, my survey of interesting new items from April and a bit of May 2021. For Poser and DAZ Studio, and few for Substance Painter or in .OBJ and thus easy to get to Vue. Plus some Blender.
Science-fiction:
M4 Patrick Stewart for Poser, via a ZBrush head morph. He was the Star Trek commander who came after Captain Kirk. No need for hair, which is nice. Obviously not for commercial use.
Free “Plug In limbs” for Genesis 8 Male and Female for DAZ Studio. “Does not contain robot parts” but is said to be “useful for attaching robotic appendages to the characters”.
For hibernation sleep on deep-space colony voyages, the Sleep-Sack for G8M and G8F.
Vehicles:
Future Bike, a new fantasy sci-fi motorcycle.
A free Mad Max style SpedBike monocycle in .OBJ format.
Soup up your SpedBike with Coflek-gnorg’s new Techno Tribes poles.
A complete modern Motorschlitten (Snowmobile) for Poser, with sled and many MAT options.
A free two-part dirt racetrack for scrambler bikes, junior speedway and suchlike. Part 1 and Part 2. DAZ Studio and also .OBJ so it can be used with other software such as Poser and Vue.
Storybook:
Ice Cream for DAZ Studio.
Free Cute Monster Legs for the Cute Monster. Or, more interestingly, for the above ice-creams. Runaway ice-creams on a hot day, now there’s a children’s storybook idea for you.
A free seat that could be retextured in playroom pastels. Or used as-is as a seat for the toon tortoise, seen below.
Toon:
Tank the Cartoon Tortoise, a new 3D Universe figure. For some reason they have not included 3Delight materials, just iRay.
Ninja Sprite One for All pose-set for the Ninja Sprite. Judging from the previews, for both male and female variants.
People and clothing:
A free Bed with dForce Blankets, with commercial use. 150Mb. Very generous of Sadrielxv, as this could have been sold commercially at $10.
The free Sheldrake for M4. Not sure who this is meant to be, but obviously an American screen celeb who does noir detective-type stories.
Aged Van Damme Megapack for Genesis 1 and up.
Fred for L’Homme. Both head and neck morphs, lightweight at a 2Mb download. L’Homme is the flagship male that ships with Poser 11 and 12, and the companion of La Femme.
See also the rather more expensive Stan L’Homme from character expert Tempesta3d. Great to see an older male from her.
Historical:
The Western Knight Series 01 for Genesis 8 Males. A classic Prince Hal-style storybook knight.
Wizard Beard, seemingly also with eyebrows.
6 Medieval Farm Scythe and Sickles in .OBJ and .FBX formats. Low-poly, so your slavering mob of yokels can be waving them dementedly at the local wizard.
The Colosseum, a giant Roman Arena for DAZ Studio.
Pole Station for DAZ Studio. A classic 1960-60s Cold War type station, of the type that finds something frozen in the ice.
Animals and related landscapes:
HiveWire3D now has their store up, on Renderosity. See also Ken Gilliland’s Store for his Songbird Remix series and more - such as Dragonflies and Tortoises (sold as “Turtles”).
AM’s Woolly Mammoth rigged with fur and rebuilt for Blender.
A free Roadrunner Run Animation for the Songbird ReMix Roadrunner bird.
Has your cat had too much catnip? Add even more bounce to your 3D cat’s day with Spring Thing.
Flink’s Pine Forest for Poser. And a Nordic Lumberyard from ShaaraMuse3D.
My Camel Camelia animations pack.
Free Side Saddle Tack for the HiveWire Horse.
Shaders and special materials:
Free Poser Wax for Firefly and Superfly. Waxy candle materials.
Hi-res Cobweb Effect Maker by ShaaraMuse3D for Poser and DAZ Studio.
30 Ropes and Cables Base Material for Substance Painter.
Utilities, extras, plugins:
Noir Cyberpunk HDRIs for DAZ Studio. For a stark b&w look.
Light Dots for Poser 12, Note, Poser 12 and not 11. The new Poser 12 scripts are not backwards compatable.
Scatter Tool II for Poser 12. Glad I got the Poser 11 version from the Hivewire moving-house sale, as it seems it’s ‘Poser 12 only’ now. Update, June 2021: the 11 version is now on Renderosity.
A YouTube preview for the new IK Manager for Poser 12, offering “a much easier and centralized way of controlling IK on figures, and also allowing visual cues to what parts have IK on or off at any time”. The new script is now on Renderosity for $12. Poser 12 only, note.
MOM 3D Crowd Generator. Similar to the older 2D billboards version, but this one uses low-poly 3D figures.
Tutorials:
Fantasy Taverns: A Workshop on Multi-Character and Atmospheric Scenes in DAZ Studio.
iRay Lighting Solutions Tutorial Set for DAZ Studio.
Sixus1 has a new Painting With Texture tutorial, for 2D painters and overpainters.
Ok, that’s it for now. More as we head into the summer.
First thoughts on MetaHuman
Hmmm… MetaHuman. First thoughts.
It’s obviously destined for semi-pro and small-studio videogames makers who want to shave a few days or weeks off a too-tight production schedule. It appears to output very good starting points for your hundreds of NPCs, that will later be optimised in-game for 60 frames per second. However, flip through the latest PC Gamer magazine for a second. Do you see any “uncanny valley” hyper-real characters, that look like the standard AAA humans MetaHuman is pushing? Very few, these days. In fact, the new U.S. edition has a manga/anime girl on the cover. She runs real-time in the latest hit game.
That said, the head-and-shoulders MetaHuman demo shows obvious superiority to previous “quickie avatar/NPC makers” for games, of the sort that now litter the bankruptcy registers. As such there’s also obvious potential for real-time motion-capture movie-making use, if (and it’s a big if) the mo-cap and AI-aided tweaking in postwork can get the footage past the “uncanny valley”. The average screen entertainment viewer wants Marilyn Monroe, not the 2020s equivalent of a Thunderbirds puppet. But 98% of digital art hobbyists have no interest in making storytelling movies, nor in the full-body motion-capture rigs needed to make that happen.
The MetaHuman tech-demo is set to evolve into a free ongoing cloud service, if the early reports are correct. As such I’d say they have two money making options which will dictate their add-ons…
1) make the exporter modules a paid item, if you’re not sending your figure to the Unreal engine. Exporters to push your 12Gb’s of .FBX figure to Blender, Cinema 4D etc, maybe even to DAZ. But, most likely, never directly to their competitors such as Unity, NVIDIA Omniverse etc. Since their build-a-human service is in the cloud, the exporters cannot be pirated. That sounds steadily lucrative, and for not much ongoing effort.
2) or build a vast sprawling content eco-system on this, complete with ‘anatomically-correct’ figures, skimpy frillies, ankle-bracelets etc. Then promise not to look at the ‘megaboobs’ and other naughty figures that people make and download. But that would damage their brand, and also be a big hassle to admin and do PR for. Why bother, when you have the money coming in via option one? For that reason, I can’t see that DAZ or Renderosity will have a great deal to worry about. The ‘silent majority’ of their users will not want to use cloud services, and will be content with clothes-swopping, kit-bashing and morph-tweaking in privacy. Even if it means staying a step below the current state-of-the-art in hyper-realism. Much the same is true of those who want the wealth of creative science-fiction and fantasy content that DAZ and Poser now provide, royalty-free. Not to mention toon, animals and monsters.
It also seems to me that the average dedicated DAZ user will fairly soon just say… “I got a new PC and a 30-series NVIDIA card, so I run DAZ iRay in realtime now”. True, there’s still a damnable graphics-card drought but that surely can’t last forever. This means the “ooh… it works in real-time” thing is a bit of a red-herring. The only caveat there is the hair. Adding 3D hair has always caused a huge drop in scene pliability, and it’s just possible that MetaHuman has done more than create awesome-looking ‘helmet hair’. Real-time hairs that are true ‘stranded grooms’ and which can be easily re-styled… that would be quite something.
Finally, the ‘elephant in the room’ is AI. We’ve recently seen the Deep Nostalgia service very ably auto-animate a still 2D vintage photo with head-turns and eye-blinks. How much further will that go in the next few years? We may yet see Reallusion popping out a ‘CrazyTalk AI’, so don’t count them out yet either.
Darkseal un-sealed
Of interest to comics-maker using Poser, Darkseal now has stuff on the DAZ Store that I’ve not seen before, or which I assumed had vanished along with Content Paradise. He also has a sale on, right now.
Sadly no Neo Navigator or Rift Guardian, but we do get Rift Walker and Boon. His Boon toons reasonably well and takes M4 poses. Quite possibly Warframe, so think twice about commercial use of either. Also, the Rift Walker is vaguely similar to a Warhammer Genestealer, so commercial use in a comic etc could also be iffy.
Bugboy is even better in terms of tooning, although… you need to manually remove the eye-catching nipples and other distracting tackle that he loads with. But this is easily done, just make them invisible.
I never purchased the matching female version, as the megaboob-iness is a bit naff and I can’t think where I might use the figure. But I assume it toons to lineart in Poser 11 Smooth Shaded + Comic Book B&W just as nicely. I assume both BugBoy and Girl are original characters, and so could be used commercially?
Frye can toon reasonably well, but is more of a cartoonists’ aid for overdrawing. Probably best not to make him a flame-creature though, re: Howl’s Moving Castle. He comes with an additional ‘ice’ MAT.
Be warned that Darkseal’s Alien Podz don’t toon at all well in lineart, because they have few edges, and I recall I was also disappointed with his BioSkin series for tooning too. Painted details, rather than geometry.
No NearMe outfits or Cherry, or Squiddy. I’m fairly sure they’re all off the market now. On DAZ is one I’ve never seen before, though. There’s a ChupacabraP8Dog MAT for Stonemason’s Poser 8 Dog, a base animal figure which shipped free with Poser way back. As it was a flagship figure it has masses of morphs and dials.
He toons surprisingly nicely and has an expressive face. I’d always assumed he was just an old Poser Doberman. He can take DAZ sheep and pig poses, though not all that well. ChupacabraP8Dog is just the useful “ghost-dog” skin, and also note that CG Bytes has a Dalmatian skin and possibly some additional posing morphs.
Of the Space Bugs trio I only have the Drone, and it toons fairly well. Good for background decoration in big sci-fi scenes, and it doesn’t appear to be from Warhammer, Warframe etc. You could probably fit a saddle to it for a spaceport scene…
No poses but the Drone will take poses for the old DAZ Sheep, Pig etc very nicely.
Zulaynear for Cookie is also on the Store, though under a different vendor name.
Poser 12 Early Access 12.0.484
There’s been an unexpected update to Poser 12 Early Access, out of the usual monthly loop. Last was 12.0.469 (public on 7th April 2021), blogged about here. The latest is now 12.0.484 (public on 17th April 2021), which has two additional rounds of bug-fixing in it.
Two Walk Designer fixes, four Shortcut Editor fixes, and what look like two fairly vital fixes…
* “Texture Manager correctly updates gamma value on the texture, when using “Replace All Textures” feature.”
* “Changed PoserPython poser.ScriptLocation() to ensure return of path in fully native format”.
Cycles gets a big animation rendering boost
Very interesting news for Poser, via Blender’s Cycles…
Cycles has just got a massive performance boost when rendering animations and re-rendering images thanks to Brecht Van Lommel’s latest patch adding persistent data functionality to the render engine.
Poser’s SuperFly is Blender’s Cycles re-branded and slightly tweaked, so there seems no reason this improvement won’t be coming to Poser in due course. More system memory appears to be assumed, in order to make this work. No actual benchmark yet, in terms of what “massive” means in time-saving.
But apparently Blender’s Eevee also benefits. It was supposedly “real-time” anyway, but now is said to be twice as real-time. Erm…
Apparently the big Cycles push forward — with a whole new turbo-charged NVIDIA-only ‘Cycles X’ engine set for Blender 3.1 — is being funded by a major Facebook partnership. Not sure what Facebook get out of that? Perhaps something related to games running in their VR headsets.



























































































